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Post by Maya Laws on Apr 1, 2020 18:23:57 GMT
One thing that stood out to me was the fact that all he kids were very different and some of them were very young. I was also surprised that the leaders were already chosen. This show is a little bit similar to LOTF because it is a group of kids in the middle of nowhere because they have to fend for themselves without any adults but it is also very different because they are doing this voluntarily and they also have some supplies and leaders already chosen. It also is both boys and girls and most of them don't know each other. It is also much more safe and controlled than LOTF. I would let my kid be apart of this if they were older than 11 or 12 because I think it would be a very good experience and would hep them learn valuable skills but if the were too young I don't think they would be able to responsibly take care of themselves. I don't think this is really realistic because there has to be some adult presence because the crew is there and I don't think most parents would allow this.
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Post by Maegan Wesley on Apr 1, 2020 18:41:26 GMT
Some things that naturally stood out to me while watching the show was that they had leaders that were not selected by the kids themselves. It becomes clear quickly that Greg did not like that Mike, who was younger than him, was acting the way he was even though he was in a leadership role. Another observation that i had was that all of the kids were relying on Sophia to make their food, along with only a few others, while they did nothing to help her and only continued to complain. One parallel between Kid Nation and Lord of the Flies because you can see when one kid takes power, another is jealous and/or does not agree with the original leader(s). I would not put my kids in that environment because even though the show teaches some important skills, there are other ways for the to learn them without dropping them into a high stress situation that could upset them, as seen in multiple kids on the show.
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Post by Emily Wingard on Apr 1, 2020 18:53:06 GMT
One thing that stood out to me was how much kids can be mean. Kids are also so brave to do something like this. But the leaders(the kids)only do things for themselves or something that was best for them in the moment. It's funny to see how kids work things their way and see their perspectives. But kids are so dependent on their parent's to make them food and take care of them. So eight year olds are are struggling because their kinda on their own. This show is kinda similar because these kids are relying on others to do something. Theirs leaders trying to take control. And make things "better" which doesn't always work because people don't listen. So it's similar because leaders take control and tell what the group is going to do to survive. And it's different because in Lord of the Flies the kids didn't have a choice to try and survive on an island with a bunch of boys who they don't like/know each other. But in the Tv show these kids had the option to do this and they know that they will survive. It's not like their going into this expecting to die. The kids in the book will very well might die. In the book it was very unexpected for them to crash and now they have to try and survive on their own without anything. So it's different in many ways. So knowing how mean kids can be and what they could do, me as a parent I would not let my child do something like this. Sure maybe they could get an awesome experience out of it but in the long run like my child could do something I wouldn't even think they could do. So I would not let my child do it. This show does show kinda shows reality. It kinda shows in real life what your child would do if they got stranded somewhere. But also behind the scenes like theres stuff going on that we don't see. So this shows some reality but you never know what could be going on.
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Post by Katarina Garcia on Apr 1, 2020 19:01:37 GMT
Some things that stood out to me from the show is how mature the kids were for their age. Some of them knew how to milk goats, cook, etc. they also need to clean the cabins, dishes, and keep up the maintenance of Bonzana Town. It also stood out to me how once the task and jobs were set there was immediately more order. Everyone was trying their best to do their job and people weren't super off task and messing around. It also stood out to me how the red group got to literally do nothing and get paid way more than the other working groups like that didn't seem fair. The concept of the show is similar to Lord of the Flies in the fact that it is a group of young kids who are dumped off somewhere with no adult supervision and must survive. However, it is different because these kids already have leaders picked out, food, shelter, shops, water, etc. I would let my kid go there if they were old enough and mature enough because it is a good opportunity for them to learn and grow and give them some taste of how life is like. Also, I would be getting paid and if they won that $20,000 it would help go towards their future like college. The situation seems safe and they would be free to leave at any given time. Kid Nation does not show the full reality because of the camera and host that still guides them threw it. The kids were automatically supplied with shelter, food, and water and given a cookbook and book telling them what to do.
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Post by Phillip Truong on Apr 1, 2020 19:30:28 GMT
Stood out: felt scripted, just the fact that there was a cameraman moving along and recording them gives me such a feeling. (also, leaders were chosen beforehand / the concept of the gold star / interviews in the middle of scenes) Similarities: Base concept of kids being on their own with no adults and having to take care of themselves. Differences: this show includes guys and gals of all young ages. given supplies to survive, in contrast to LOTF (Boys in book had to start from scratch.) Willingly allow my kids to participate in smth like this? Eh, I would. We all make choices after all. Show Reality? in a schadenfreude way, kinda, yeah. The events do kinda feel scripted, as kids are less responsible and crazier than what is depicted in the show.
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Post by Tiana Phi on Apr 1, 2020 19:36:45 GMT
Something that stood out to me is that the show had already prepared leaders from the start with none of the kids' opinions on thinking what's best for them. They also, only had a brief introduction for the four leaders. This is similar to Lord of the flies is because there is no adult around in the area and they are working with each other. This is different by the way they got there. In Lord of the flies, the boys landed onto an island due to a plane crash while the kids in this are taking a bus to this trip. I willingly would not allow my child to be placed in this environment at a specific age because at a younger age their mindset wouldn't be ready for what it takes. I would not really think of this as reality because in some way there is a whole camera crew of adults, but the kids still do express the emotions as if it weren't a reality show.
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Post by Campbell Preston on Apr 1, 2020 20:02:09 GMT
What stood out to me was how surprised the kids were at how difficult this was. It seems self explanatory that starting a town with nothing other than forty kids and a ghost town would be difficult. It was apparent that some kids were taking on leadership roles, regardless of if they were on the council or not. This is similar to Lord of the Flies, in the way that leaders are emerging, some that were chosen to be leaders and some that are just more responsible. It is also similar in the fact that a bunch of children have to create a society out of basically nothing. I would not put my kid into this situation because it would be stressful and if they were a younger child I would want them to still get food and not get lost in the sea of kids. This show does not really show reality, I think that the drama is definitely increased and fed for the good of the show, but also some of the kids that I know wouldn't be able to even cook pasta or follow a recipe like the kids in the show. I think some of the drama is real, but most of it is fed to them, or at least increased.
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Post by Shaye Ridley on Apr 1, 2020 20:27:54 GMT
1. It was odd how there were just leaders who got out of the helicopter because I didn't expect that. It surprised me how much the kids fought during the first breakfast. The council members also seem to be a lot nicer and more reasonable to the other kids in Kid Nation. 2. It is different because everything is more organized and the kids were mentally prepared and had clothes, bags, shelter and resources. There are boys and girls in Kid Nation too, whereas in LOTF it was all boys. In Kid Nation, it's not as real for obvious reasons, and the kids can choose to go home if they want to. Another difference is, in Kid Nation the main objective is to survive and work together, whereas in LOTF a huge objective and point of conflict is trying to be rescued. The two are similar because, in both, the kids worked together relatively well in the beginning. It is also similar because the kids do have to feed everyone and meet many people's needs. In both, wanting to show adults they are mature enough to function is mentioned. Also the little kids do look up to the older kids, but the little kids don't appreciate the older kids abusing that power. 3. It would be interesting to see how this would actually play out, but I don't think I would let my child be placed in this environment. There are so many other opportunities to get leadership skills and if this was real it would be a very dangerous way to do it. I don't think there is really a point to doing something like this either. 4. This show shows reality in some ways because it does show how kids would argue and how others step up when things aren't going well. When some of the kids have a hard time adjusting, I think that would happen in a real scenario. I think it also accurately shows the competition that could happen if there are separate teams.
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Post by Ava on Apr 1, 2020 21:31:51 GMT
One of the things that shocked me was how immediate the need for control and a council was. It was pretty much the first thing they did after getting off the bus, which surprised me because I thought the kids might just want to be kids for a little bit. This show is similar to Lord of the Flies in concept, because the kids are left to their own decisions in a setting with "no" adults. However, it differs because the kids know what their goal is, they can leave at any time, and they have a man (and a book) guiding them the whole time. I would allow my child to be put in this situation as long as they knew they could leave at any time, because I think its a good learning and leadership experience in a setting where they're safe. This show does not show the full reality because the watcher is not aware of what occurs behind the cameras and there are adults present in case anything goes wrong.
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Post by Mateo Piza on Apr 1, 2020 22:41:08 GMT
Okay, Okay, Okay, Okay, Okay, Okay, Okay, Okay, Okay, Okay, who's terrible Idea was it to create this terrible idea of a reality show. In concept asking 40 kids, age 8-15 is not the best idea but they made it worst. The one thing the kids didn't need after clearly demonstrating how they already couldn't work together cohesively because they didn't know each other, was to be segregated and pinned against each other for money and prizes. I'm sure in this group of pre-pubescent kids taking them away from there parents and not really providing them with proper living supplies like more than one toilet for 40 people. Side note he didn't mention that you could leave until after Jimmy left, Bastard. It's similar to lord of the flies because it's a bunch of kids stranded in the middle of nowhere forced to survive for the entertainment of adults. I would never send any child to this due to the borderline child abuse in the show. According to an article by reality blurred (a website that writes stuff about reality TV,) "Among other things, “several children required medical attention after drinking bleach that had been left in an unmarked soda bottle, according to both the parent and CBS. One 11-year-old girl burned her face with splattered grease while cooking.” It does not show reality because kids would never act this way without the corrosion of the adults and writers.
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Post by Jazmin Campuzano on Apr 2, 2020 1:56:27 GMT
Some things that stood out to me was the type of tasks they were set to do and how quick they were to complete them before anything else. Also, I don't think it was fair how the main captains were already elected without all the kids/teens having a chance to decide on it and have a saying to see who they believed would be better for the whole team. In the video, it mentioned how the kids could decide whether they wanted to give up to go home in a week or so. Therefore in Lord of the Flies, the kids got to go home whenever they want and they were not required to stay a certain amount of time to decide that. Both the video and LOTF can relate since the kids wouldn't get much help from adults and had to work hard to do all the tasks by themselves. In my opinion, I wouldn't send my children there until they were about 13 years old and had more responsibility so that they could learn tasks that could help them later on in life since it would be helpful for the future. If my children were younger than 13 I would not send them and have them go there since I believe their too young to be sent there by themselves and since from 12 and younger they wouldn't have as many responsibilities and shouldn't be sent to a middle of anywhere to learn them.
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Post by Leigh Schmidt on Apr 2, 2020 2:28:28 GMT
Something that I noticed right away is that some of the kids seem to expect to die during the 40 days in the ghost town. None of them seem very excited, but they don’t seem scared, either. They all have backpacks and extra clothing and supplies, which is very different from the situation in Lord of the Flies. The leaders are also already chosen, while in Lord of the Flies, they were elected by people in the group. The kids all have a chance to get out of the town and go home if they want to, but in Lord of the Flies, they don’t know if they would ever be rescued. Things start going wrong right away in both situations, and not all of the kids in either place seem happy with the leadership.
I would not willingly allow my child to be in this environment. It takes a certain type of person to survive in a situation like this, and if my child were not that person, it would be a terrible experience. The kids who end up being leaders in Lord of the Flies are physically capable of defending their leadership position, and those who are less able are pushed into roles where they don’t have a say in what’s going on. There are also a lot of other ways that my child could gain valuable leadership experience without being thrown into a ghost town. This show does not portray reality accurately because the chances of a situation like this ever happening in real life are very low. There are situations like this in the real world, like if a group of people have to do something that none of them know how to do, that don’t involve a possible life-or-death situation.
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Post by Ella Todd on Apr 2, 2020 16:12:29 GMT
Some things that stood out to me was how a lot of the show was based on games that did not reflect accurate survival skills. I also was surprised that the leaders were chosen from the beginning. I would have thought that part of the survival and making of the society would be letting the kids establish their own form of government or at least elect their own leaders. Finally, the adult interference stood out to me, because I assumed there would be less. This is a major difference between this show and Lord of the Flies, in this show, the adults are in charge of providing direction for the kids, while in Lord of the Flies, there is no adult supervision. Also, since a lot of the things were already established in the show, for example, a source of leadership, food supply, and shelter, their priorities are less on survival compared to the book. Yet, in both of these scenarios, there has been a divide in the kids. In the show, it was between color groups, and in the book, it was centered around hunters and everyone else. Also, in both of these, you can see that this divide was influenced by the age of the children.
I would not let my child on this show. There seems to be a lot of conflict and stress, and while it might teach them valuable life lessons, it also could be traumatizing for them especially depending on their age. While there might be compassion between some of the kids, others are mean and I would not want my child to experience that. This show also does not show reality. The kids have almost everything provided for them, and they can leave at any time. Also, the show added social classes which made it somewhat realistic, but the method they used to determine the classes was not realistic at all.
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Post by Andrew Weiland on Apr 2, 2020 17:20:52 GMT
Some things stood out to me during this show from the very start. First, it seemed like the lifestyles were drastically different for many of these kids at home. There were some kids talking about how they had goats at their house, and they would milk them all the time, and then there was a girl who was described as some beauty pageant queen. It seemed like some kids on this show were not fit for the tasks that they had to complete. The premise of the show was similar to Lord of the Flies in a way, but it had very strong differences. The show made it seem like the kids were trapped there until the 40 days were done, but realistically the kids were allowed to leave whenever they wanted. Also, there was way too much adult control on the whole situation then Lord of the Flies. In this show the kids weren't even allowed to pick their own leaders because the adults had already chosen them for them which was not the case for Lord of the Flies.
I would not put my child in this environment. Even though I'm sure there are adults with them constantly, it doesn't seem like a great environment for a child, especially an 8-year-old. The only reason I could possibly see you putting your kid on this show is that they had a chance to win $20,000, and even then you would have to really need that money. The show does not show reality. The whole thing seems staged, and there are constatnly adults around even if it is just the cameramen.
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Post by Nicholas on Apr 2, 2020 17:32:06 GMT
Some things that stood out was that there is a really big age difference from the youngest to oldest kid at Kid Nation. This show is similar to LOTF because it is kids alone trying to survive without their parents like in LOTF. No I would not allow my child to go on this show because I do not know how the other children will act when no adults are there. No it does not show reality because there are still adults there like the camera crew, if the camera crew was not there it would be totally chaotic.
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