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Post by Andrew Weiland on Apr 22, 2020 0:53:19 GMT
The ending of the book didn't really suit the story. The story was about how the boys were able to create a society on their own without the need of adults. They are then saved by an adult in the brink of the war. This shows that they could not create a society or survive on their own. I think that Golding should have finished the book off with the end of the battle, so there is a bit of mystery of what happened to all of them.
I think that Golding ended the book this way to show that kids cannot survive on their own. They needed to be saved in the end before they made a great mistake. He is also showing that adults are very similar in this way, needing someone to save them in times like war, but they never do. This is also the ending that most would have expected because from the beginning the boys were trying to get saved.
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Post by Gina Meyer on Apr 22, 2020 2:38:21 GMT
I do not believe that the ending of Lord of The Flies fits the rest of the book because it seems like a wonderfully developed storyline just hits a wall. As the savage boys are chasing Ralph and the island is literally on fire they magically get saved by a naval officer even though they had already tried fire which didn't work. It is almost like the author did not want the readers to read about more death even though it would have been a better conclusion that wrapped up the book. However, I think that William Golding chose to end the book this way because it represents the ways that humans can become savages when not directed properly but when they are suddenly put back in their civilized minds they revert to their civil ways. It would make sense that Golding would want to incorporate this into the novel because it would also give the readers closure to the story instead of all of the boys eventually dying on the island.
Other Dues Ex Mechina moments that I can think of is the ending of Avengers: End Game when lots of heroes come through portals after being disintegrated 5 years ago to defeat Thanos and in many Criminal minds episodes when a beloved character might be about to die a miracle happens and they have a break in the case or simply looking at something different.
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Post by Madden on Apr 22, 2020 5:55:39 GMT
I found the end of the novel very underwhelming. I do not think that the ending was very fitful to the end of the book because out of nowhere after all the violence and build up of the book an officer just shows up to "help" Ralph and all of the boys just stop chasing him. I think Golding chose to end the book this way to show that children need a figure of authority in their life to keep them from doing anything illegal or that they would regret in the long run. A Deus ex Machina moments that I can think of in an other film would be Harry Potter. In The Deathly Hallows Part 2 Lilly Potter throws herself in front of Harry so the curse rebounds and puts a spell on him that will protect him until he is 13. Giving him time to learn how to deal with Voldemort when he returns.
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Post by Daniel Nguyen on Apr 22, 2020 6:05:38 GMT
I don't feel like this is a fitful ending to LOTF. It first started with order and good but then lead to chaos and evil. I feel like an ending where there is nothing but chaos and there is absolutely no feelings of relief or anything of the sort would be better. I think that William Golding chose to end the novel this way because he wanted the ending to not be completely bad and show some good. It also shows that when the adults came, order was eventually restored and the chaos would be removed.
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Post by Mira Metter on Apr 22, 2020 6:33:57 GMT
The end of the novel is rather abrupt. Ralph is being chased by Jack and the other boys, seemingly to his death, when suddenly a naval officer shows up to rescue him, not only saving all the boys from the island, but specifically saving Ralph´s life. I thought that the end was fitful because it tied in with what Simon had predicted, so therefore, Golding had, in a way, foreshadowed that Ralph would miraculously be saved. The ending did not feel like Golding had rushed it despite the maybe unrealistic way in which the boys were rescued. Golding ended the novel in this way to make a statement about how savage the boys had become because had it not been for the naval officer, Jack and the other boys would have murdered Ralph and the tribe would fully discard all the morals they previously had. Another Deus ex Machina moment is in Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets. When Harry is dying with no hope in sight, the phoenix comes in and it´s tears heal Harry. Then the bird is able to carry Harry along with three other people back up the tunnel and the are saved and relatively unharmed.
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Post by Autumn Davis on Apr 22, 2020 14:53:31 GMT
While I like the emotion and guilt conveyed by the end of the novel, I feel like the ending was too sudden. The officer's brief disappointment with the way the boys had acted as well as the boys releasing their long-bottled emotions seemed fitful to the novel. However, this sudden closure was not foreshadowed nearly at all throughout the novel, making the end of the novel seem hurried. I think that Golding chose to use Deus ex Machina as a way of showing the audience that the boys on the island have still retained their humanity; for much of the novel, almost all the boys on the island act viciously without really showing any pain or grief. Golding's ending to the novel allows the boys to feel guilt and sadness for their actions once reminded of the society off the island.
Other examples of Deus ex Machina in literature/film occur frequently, like in all of the Harry Potter books and films. In the first book/film, Harry miraculously is saved by his mother's love. The second book allows Harry to be saved by Fawkes and pull the sword of Gryffindor out of the sorting hat; each of the seven books has a unique Deus ex Machina scene in which Harry is saved from Lord Voldemort's evil.
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Post by Makenzie Simon on Apr 22, 2020 16:31:42 GMT
I do not like the ending of this book, I feel it was underwhelming and I expected more. The entire novel was filled with an evil and adventurous side whereas the book ended erupt with an officer to finally help. I think the author chose to end the book this way because it was a moment where they finally went back to reality because they are kids and at the end of the day they are still under care by other people with more authority than them.
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Post by Maddie Van Haveren on Apr 23, 2020 7:27:11 GMT
I didn't really like the end of the book. After everything that the boys went through, and everything that they did to each other it seems like a happy ending that's just too easy. They had been trying to get off of the island for the whole book and for a solution to just magically appear makes it too easy. I think that with the end of the book Golding was trying to show how even after you've tried everything, sometimes you have to rely on the help of others to save you. One Deus ex Machina moment I can think of is the end of The Rise of Skywalker when Lando all of the sudden shows up with a bunch of civilians that are willing to help the Resistance.
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Post by Adrianna Castillo on May 1, 2020 3:59:45 GMT
In the ending they get rescued and I guess it was a kind of a happy ending but it left me really unsatisfied because I expected so much more. The book has been filled with so much action and violence that I really expected the same to come out of the ending but it didn't. To me the ending didn't make sense with the track of the story because I felt like it was missing the same energy the rest of the book but it seemed to have a lot of effects on the kids at the end. I'm not sure why Golding chose to end the book this way but maybe its because he wanted to show how powerful the presence of final safety and authority could be to the children. The children being saved made Ralph truly understand everything that had happened and it showed that nothing would ever really be the same again. I can't think of a moment where Deux ex Machima has been showed but it definitely makes movies and books come to quick endings.
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