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Post by Rhylee Jensen on Apr 15, 2020 17:24:59 GMT
The conch represents Ralph's leadership and power. At the beginning of the book, all of the boys are confused and don't know what to do. Ralph finds this "conch" and uses it as a way to get the attention of all the other people. In the beginning, the boys use it as a way to respect who is talking and keep order, however, as the book progresses, less and less people are following the rules with the conch. In the context of the the novel, the conch is used to keep order. This symbol, as the book nears the end, is lost and forgotten. The order in society, or on the island, is lost. It is very hard to gain control of the order again.
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Post by Campbell Preston on Apr 15, 2020 17:28:02 GMT
In this book, Piggy's glasses represent logic and civilization. At the beginning of the book, the glasses are shiny and unscratched, perfectly preserved from the world that they left. Piggy's glasses are used to start the signal fire, showing how they represent the logic and levelheadedness that the boys possess at the beginning of the book. They were all still intent on both finding a way off the island and making the island as comfortable and livable as possible while they were there. As the story progressed, logic and reason deteriorated as anger and frustration rose. "Ralph made a step forward and Jack smacked Piggy's head. Piggy's glasses flew off and tinkled on the rocks. Piggy cried out in terror: 'My specs!'" (Golding 71). This shows how reason is no longer in control, and fear and anger have taken over. Finally, after the boys had split into the two tribes, Jack, Roger, and Maurice came to the beach where Ralph, Piggy, Sam, and Eric lay sleeping, beat up the boys and stole Piggy's glasses. Throughout the story, these glasses were crucial to the boys as a means of starting fires. While Jack needs fire to cook what he's hunted, Ralph needs the specs to make the signal fire. The stealing of Piggy's glasses solidify the differences between Jack and Ralph, and the end of acting with logic.
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Post by Devon Garls on Apr 15, 2020 17:34:38 GMT
The island represents a perfect haven, a place for complete bliss and separation from the horrible, savage world during World War II. The island is a magnificent place, filled with beautiful scenery throughout every corner and crevice, filled with animals and trees that Golding describes in all their glory, leaving the reader with an image that can only be described as Heaven. " Out there, perhaps a mile away, the white surf flinked on a coral reef, and beyond that the open sea was dark blue. Within the irregular arc of coral the lagoon was still as a mountain lake—blue of all shades and shadowy green and purple." (Golding 10) The way Golding uses imagery to describe how the island looks and behaves creates a beautiful palace of green and blue, the life of the plants and ocean. Similar to the Garden of Eden, the island is a perfect place for people to live. Its purpose in the book is to capture the products of the relentless actions of Jack and his men, the complete disregard for civil life and Mother Nature. Towards the end of the book, the island begins to devolve into hell, ridden with man-made fires and the product of complete savagery conducted by Jack and his ravenous hunters. This devolution into a place of anarchy is a symbol for the destruction of civil society, the bite taken out of the apple in the Garden. This symbol is ultimately completely destroyed, but its effects as a symbol still remain throughout the novel, describing how man can both create and destroy a society.
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Post by Maegan Wesley on Apr 15, 2020 17:39:05 GMT
Piggy's glasses represent the scientific and technological side of society. Piggy's glasses prove to be one of the most invaluable items that the boys have on the island. They are repeatedly used to start the signal fires and fires to stay warm. They are seen to be in good condition and hold no real significance to any of the boys, except for Piggy who uses them to see, when the novel begins. By the end of the novel, the glasses are turned to something more like a pawn to whomever holds the most power on the island. This is seen by them being in Ralph's possession at the beginning when he held most power over the boys then being stolen by Jack, a parallel to how he stole power on the island as well. The glasses' ability to start was the most advanced and only form of technology on the island which gives it it's importance. It ends up being a scarcity because not everyone can have the glasses at once, making everyone want it even more. This shows that if a piece of technology holds symbolic power, those who want power will do almost anything to attain it.
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Post by Dreu Charles on Apr 15, 2020 17:52:55 GMT
The conch shell represents power, civility, and leadership. From the start of the book he who holds the conch shell has power or plays the leadership role. For example the conch was the determining factor in who was elected leader in the beginning of the book. The conch shell continues to assert power for the boy in charge throughout the book and may become the cause of feud between the boys later on.
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Post by Makenzie Simon on Apr 15, 2020 18:17:36 GMT
The island represents the Garden of Eden. Initially in the book the island is uninhabited and is seen as a paradise, green and beautiful. However, when the boys crash they leave a scar. Overtime, they continue to show their destructive behavior by killing off the creatures and by the end of the book the island is destroyed in a fire by Jack's tribe. The island's purpose is to show the clear civilization and savagery in the story which ultimately is seen as the books overall theme.
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Post by Teddy Sopkin on Apr 15, 2020 18:23:44 GMT
In Lord of the Flies piggy's glasses symbolize rationalism and intelligence. When piggy is alive, he is very rational about everything. At the beginning of the book, his glasses aren't broken but over time his glasses break. This shows that people go insane and lose rationality when stuck or trapped. When Ralph and Jack were trying to start a fire in chapter 2, they figure out that they can use Piggy's glasses to burn the wood. "His specs-use them as burning glasses!"(40). This shows the intelligence and associates it with the glasses. This is in the book to show how people can start to lose sanity and rationality as time goes on. "Piggy's glasses flew off and tinkled on the rocks."(71) When his glasses break, it's because Jack smacked his head, showing losing rationality.
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Post by Mateo.p on Apr 15, 2020 18:42:53 GMT
(I'm doing symbolism about the beast.) The beast represents fear. while the Lord of the Files instills chaos and sets fires, the beast uses the fires to grow his looming shadow. The first word we hear is from a lutlin who tells of a monster who haunts him from dream to reality. Ralph tries to calm the group the beast tentacles have already seeped into the kid's brains. The beast strikes again when a pilot ejects from his plane and crashes on the island the shadow cast by his parachute shows the beast's true form. sending the boys into a panic, spiting them from Ralph and piggy the logical side of the group. After that, it uses the boys to kill Simon, and give Jack the voice of greed power. Its purpose in the novel is to be the fear that comes from the island manifested. People don't just talk openly about deep-seated fear normally. So in the novel that fear has manifested into the beast. Does it exist? Yes but not how the boys think. The beast will live on and outside the island.
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Post by Maya Laws on Apr 15, 2020 18:44:02 GMT
In lord of the flies, the conch represents power and order on the island because it is helping create more organization but the leaders are the only ones who can pretty much use it. At the beginning of the book, it is described as very valuable. Golding writes "The shell was interesting and pretty and a worthy plaything... a conch; ever so expensive. I bet if you wanted to buy one, you’d have to pay pounds and pounds and pounds," (16). This shows that since it is very valuable, it is going to be very important to the boys and it will be critical to them functioning on the island. At the end of the book,there is much more conflict and the conch is eventually destroyed. This helps to show that the society they have created is falling apart and the order and rules are completely gone because the boys are so hungry for power.
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Post by Chloe Heath on Apr 15, 2020 18:54:08 GMT
The "Lord of the Flies" represents the beastly savage nature within every person. In the beginning on the novel, the "Lord of the Flies" was only fear, but by the end of the novel, it had taken control over the boys and had become evil. The purpose of the "Lord of the Flies" is to show that everyone has an evil and violent side to them. Simon is the only one of the boys who knows the "beast" isn't something they can kill. Simon confronts the "beast" while looking at the pig's head. The "Lord of the Flies" tells him, "You knew, didn't you? I'm part of you?" (Golding 143). Ultimately, the "Lord of the Flies" takes control of the boys and leads them to become savages.
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Post by Axel Ortiz on Apr 15, 2020 18:55:09 GMT
In the book the conch shell was used to symbolism the order and civilization that the kids created. They use it to gather up the boys and when one of the boys had it it would give them power to speak in front of the group so they could be like a letter and trying to find a way off the island and back home. In one case in the book Ralph uses the shell to try to make himself a leader figure that they would need on the island.
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Post by Marin McKinney on Apr 15, 2020 19:01:09 GMT
The island is a symbol of mother nature and how man kind ruins it. The island was very peaceful and filled with beauty before the plane crashed, but now it is becoming destroyed with the mess that the boys have created. The purpose of the island is to show much of an impact humans can put on the world. The island also helps represent isolation, because it is placed in the middle of the ocean somewhere, proving that the boys truly are alone. If the setting of the book was in the plains of American, it would have a different impact on the book, because they would most likely get help and find their way back to civilization faster than being stuck on an island. As I already said, the island starts to get destroyed in the end because the boys continue to build fires and kill the animals and their homes. The plane crash also leaves a "scar" on the island which helps develop the idea of the island losing its beauty. "The heart of the flame leapt nimbly across the gap between he tress and then went swinging and flaring along the whole row of them. Beneath the capering boys a quarter of a mile square of forest was savage with smoke and flame. The separate noises of the fire merged into a drumroll that seemed to shake the mountain. " (pg 44, Golding) This quote for the book shows how the first signal fire was the start of the island getting ruined, and changing it forever.
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Post by Asher Gettings on Apr 15, 2020 19:27:37 GMT
I am choosing to discuss the changing symbolism of Piggy's glasses. In the beginning, Piggy's glasses are thick-rimmed with coke-bottle lenses. These glasses become a source of hope for the boys. They are able to create a fire which is the one way of alerting passing ships that they need rescue. Over the course of the book, they become a symbol of the power struggle between Ralph and Jack. This power struggle is shown in chapter 4 when Ralph and Jack are having a fight about letting the fire go out, Piggy comes to the aid of Ralph only to be smacked in the head by Jack. At this moment two things happen, one, "Piggy's glasses flew off and tinkled on the rocks" (Golding, 71) and one side was broken. Also, Ralph realizes that Jack and he are no longer really friends because of Jack's jealousy for his power. Or as Golding states, "Not even Ralph knew how a link between him and Jack had been snapped and fastened elsewhere." (73) This power struggle ultimately comes to a head when Jack orders two of the boys to attack Ralph's continuously dwindling faction and steal Piggy's glasses. This then allows Jack to make fire, the ultimate symbol of power on the island, even over the conch shell. As a side note, it also leaves Piggy basically blind, which is just a jerk move.
In this novel, the purpose of Piggy's glasses are to demonstrate the way in which the human race fights to have power over one another. We fight through political races and wars but it is always to have power over another. No matter if it is through democratic or violent means, it is still basically the same.
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Post by Jack Rueschhoff on Apr 15, 2020 19:31:56 GMT
*CHAPTER 11 SPOILER*
The Conch shell is very important in the book as it is a symbol of the boys' civility and order. It is used in the book to bring order. It is described towards the beginning of the book as an item with supreme grandeur; wonderfully magnificent and expensive. "- a conch; ever so expensive. I bet if you wanted to buy one, you'd have to pay pounds and pounds and pounds-". (Golding, 16) In fact, the boy's associating a monetary value to the shell shows the order among the children, as money still holds value to them. However, as the story continues, the shell loses much of its value, especially after Jack and his hunters desecrate it with their unruly tribe of hunters. The conch also shows the fall of their society, when it is destroyed. The moment that Jack and his hunters attack Ralph and Piggy, and Piggy is killed is the moment that the Conch breaks and any hope or trace of order and society is lost.
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Post by Shaye Ridley on Apr 15, 2020 21:25:45 GMT
The conch is a huge part of Lord of the Flies. In the beginning, Ralph and Piggy find the conch and blow it to call the other boys on the island. The conch is described as pretty and it makes the boys excited. Right off the bat, the conch is a form of power. During the meeting, the boys decide whoever has the conch can talk and no one else can. The conch then develops into a source of democracy and order. Then, in the middle of the novel, the conch starts to lose significance. The boys start to talk over each other and lose the democracy they had in the beginning. Finally, nearing the end of the novel the conch loses significance entirely and no one cares about the conch. For example, Golding writes, "The rock struck Piggy a glancing blow from chin to knee; the conch exploded into a thousand white fragments and ceased to exist," (Golding, 209). As the conch becomes insignificant and is broken, the democracy and order fall apart and the boys do whatever they want.
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